GEDCOM Index
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A lot of old material was deleted on 9 June 2022 because the GEDCOM files hosted elsewhere were gone from those other websites. More material is gradually being added as I find GEDCOM files.


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Blok, Arie bastiaansz
…born 8 OCT 1769
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Arie bastiaansz
…died 13 JAN 1861
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Cornelia ariesdr
…born 2 APR 1805
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Cornelia ariesdr
…born 2 APR 1805
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Cornelia ariesdr
…died 1 MAR 1853
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Cornelia ariesdr
…died 1 MAR 1853
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Cornelia ariesdr
…married Jacobus adrianusz Kruidenier 9 DEC 1825
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Blok, Cornelia ariesdr
…married Jacobus adrianusz Kruidenier 9 DEC 1825
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Bos, Neeltje cornelisdr
…died 20 APR 1870
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Bos, Neeltje cornelisdr
…died 20 APR 1870
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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d, Oolen Kleingel
…born 21 FEB 1674
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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d, Oolen Kleingel
…born 21 FEB 1674
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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d, Oolen Kleingel
…died 27 NOV 1754
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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d, Oolen Kleingel
…died 27 NOV 1754
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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den Besten, Burgje gerritsdr
…born ABT 1650
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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den Besten, Burgje gerritsdr
…born ABT 1650
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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den Besten, Burgje gerritsdr
…died ABT 1686
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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den Besten, Burgje gerritsdr
…died ABT 1686
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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Dubel, Cornelis
…married Adriaantje van Mastricht 7 SEP 1832
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Dubel, Cornelis
…married Adriaantje van Mastricht 7 SEP 1832
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Frans Janse Punt, Frans Janse Pun
…married Adriaantje Kruidenier 26 MAY 1852
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Frans Janse Punt, Frans Janse Pun
…married Adriaantje Kruidenier 26 MAY 1852
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Gelder, Grietje cornelisdr
…born 29 APR 1784
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kleingeld, Jan Oolen
…born ABT 1645
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kleingeld, Jan Oolen
…born ABT 1645
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kleingeld, Jan Oolen
…died ABT 1686
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kleingeld, Jan Oolen
…died ABT 1686
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Adriaantje
…born 4 JUL 1832
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Adriaantje
…born 4 JUL 1832
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Adriaantje
…married Frans Janse Punt 26 MAY 1852
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Adriaantje
…married Frans Janse Punt 26 MAY 1852
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Jacobus adrianusz
…born 24 OCT 1803
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Jacobus adrianusz
…born 24 OCT 1803
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Jacobus adrianusz
…died 27 JAN 1884
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Jacobus adrianusz
…died 27 JAN 1884
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Jacobus adrianusz
…married Cornelia ariesdr Blok 9 DEC 1825
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Kruidenier, Jacobus adrianusz
…married Cornelia ariesdr Blok 9 DEC 1825
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Mes, Aagje
…married Johannes Nelisse(n) 25 Nov 1875
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, NL
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Nelisse(n), Johannes
…married Aagje Mes 25 Nov 1875
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, NL
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Punt, Adrianus
…born 21 NOV 1863
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Arie
…born 11 FEB 1859
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Cornelis
…born 11 DEC 1860
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Cornelis
…born 11 DEC 1860
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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punt, jacobus
…born 13 SEP 1856
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Jan
…born 29 APR 1873
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Jan
…died 8 AUG 1873
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Jan fransz
…died 12 FEB 1802
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Jan fransz
…died 12 FEB 1877
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Margrietha
…born 5 MAR 1866
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Margrietha
…died 29 APR 1866
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Marinus
…born 28 DEC 1876
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Marinus
…died 21 FEB 1877
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Neeltje
…born 30 JAN 1862
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Neeltje
…born 31 JUL 1855
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Neeltje
…died 12 OCT 1855
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Pieter
…born 10 APR 1867
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Pieter
…born 20 FEB 1869
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Pieter
…died 20 AUG 1868
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Willem
…born 1 FEB 1872
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Willem
…born 31 AUG 1870
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Willem
…died 23 MAR 1871
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Punt, Willem
…died 3 JUL 1872
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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r, Adrianus jacobszoon Kruidenie
…born 15 OCT 1857
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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t, Cornelia Fransdr Pun
…born 20 MAR 1854
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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t, Maria Kleijngel
…born 22 NOV 1774
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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t, Maria Kleijngel
…born 22 NOV 1774
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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t, Maria Kleijngel
…died 29 DEC 1857
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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t, Maria Kleijngel
…died 29 DEC 1857
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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van der Laan, Geertje Gijsen
…died 5 SEP 1724
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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van der Laan, Geertje Gijsen
…died 5 SEP 1724
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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van der Schoor, Maaijke Willems
…born ABT 1715
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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van der Schoor, Maaijke Willems
…born ABT 1715
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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van Mastricht, Adriaantje
…married Cornelis Dubel 7 SEP 1832
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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van Mastricht, Adriaantje
…married Cornelis Dubel 7 SEP 1832
Place as shown in GEDCOM file:
Charlois, Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
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Ancestry.com: Costs money. Provides lots of records. You can upload a GEDCOM file, but they jealously guard it and let other customers read pieces of material from it. They cannot download the GEDCOM file. Nobody else can correct or otherwise change your material. When you message new cousins, often they don’t know what a GEDCOM file is.

FamilySearch.org: Free. Provides lots of records, and even more are available if you access the site from a Family History Center. You cannot upload a GEDCOM file, so you have to add each person individually. This is lots of work but it can help you catch blunders. Other users can change your material, and sometimes they get it wrong.

GEDCOMlibrary.com and GENEALOGY.BIO: Free. Provide no records. Simple websites for sophisticated genealogists. These help researchers find each other through GEDCOM files. https://genealogy.bio/GEDCOM_Index indexes thousands of GEDCOM files (on other websites) by place name, helping you find the researcher working on the same ancestors. You will still need access to records to verify what is in those GEDCOM files. Upload your GEDCOM files today.

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